Proverbs Part I

Proverbs Part I

     We are finally able to move on from the Book of Psalms to the Book of Proverbs. The Book of Proverbs is loaded with verses repeated over and over, or simply reworded five different ways...but still the same verses. One of the things I found interesting in Proverbs was the number of times that avoiding the evil wiles of women is discussed. Does the Almighty have a problem with women? Pick up and read the Book of Proverbs and you just might think He does. Sure, a mere mortal man wrote the book, but isn't it supposed to be God-inspired?

     Now let us move on to the first posting for the questions for the verses in the Book of Proverbs.

1. Proverbs 1:4-5, 7

     4 for giving prudence to those who are simple, knowledge and discretion to the young—

     5 let the wise listen and add to their learning, and let the discerning get guidance— 

     7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Questions
     1. Okay, simple people just don't get certain things due to their simple minds, right? They do not have the mental capacity to obtain and hold more than a certain amount, correct? It is not that they are stupid, no. A stupid person knows better but chooses differently, right? A stupid person can learn prudence, but can a simple person learn prudence when they don't even have the mental capacity to know much of anything to begin with?

     2. How is the fear of the Lord the beginning of knowledge? Is it because that to the Lord the most important thing is that He have the mighty fear of those around Him?

     3. If the Lord's/God's people serve Him, how does the fear of those who serve Him benefit the Lord/God?

2. Proverbs 1:32-33

     32 For the waywardness of the simple will kill them, and the complacency of fools will destroy them;

     33 but whoever listens to me will live in safety and be at ease, without fear of harm.”

Questions
     1. Didn't we just discuss this? Simple people are not the same as stupid people, correct?

     2. Would you agree that a wayward person is one who knows better BUT who chooses differently? If such is the case wouldn't a wayward person be synonymous with a STUPID person and not a simple minded person?

     3. A simple minded person just does not know any better so how in the fuck can they be considered wayward?

3. Proverbs 2:3-5

     3 indeed, if you call out for insight and cry aloud for understanding,

     4 and if you look for it as for silver and search for it as for hidden treasure,

     5 then you will understand the fear of the Lord and find the knowledge of God.

Questions
     1. Insight is birthed from understanding which is itself received by the individual, thus HOW can it be justly stated that one would call or cry out for either?

     2. Why try to draw a parallel between insight and understanding and the fear of the Lord/God? This is far more than just a little stretch, wouldn't you say?

     3. Sooo, is the knowledge of God the fact that He must be feared or that He survives off of fear?

     4. What happens to God/the Lord if no one fears Him?

4. Proverbs 2:16-17
     16 Wisdom will save you also from the adulterous woman, from the wayward woman with her seductive words,

     17 who has left the partner of her youth and ignored the covenant she made before God.

Questions
     1. The Book of Proverbs has a lot to say about avoiding the adulterous woman and seems to go great lengths to make it seem as though it is not really a problem with the man so much as it is a problem with the typical wicked woman. Why is this?


5. Proverbs 2:21-22
     21 For the upright will live in the land, and the blameless will remain in it;

     22 but the wicked will be cut off from the land, and the unfaithful will be torn from it.

Questions
     1. Sooo, when the Native Americans were torn from their lands was it because God thought they were unfaithful? Does it not matter because they were not His people? But doesn't everyone belong to God?

     2. Sooo, the problems that modern-day Israel has had with maintaining their land are because they are unfaithful?

6. Proverbs 3:5

     5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;

Questions
     1. Does this mean to NOT trust yourself? How far is one supposed to go with not trusting the self?

     2. Isn't it a dangerous thing to NOT trust yourself? Doesn't trust start with the self?

7. Proverbs 3:11-12

     11 My son, do not despise the Lord’s discipline, and do not resent his rebuke,

     12 because the Lord disciplines those he loves, as a father the son he delights in.

Questions
     1. Have you seen how the Lord/God dishes out discipline? 

     2. Sooo, when the Lord/God is committing genocide or commanding genocide He is only doing so out of love?

8. Proverbs 3:13-17

     13 Blessed are those who find wisdom, those who gain understanding,

     14 for she is more profitable than silver and yields better returns than gold.

     15 She is more precious than rubies; nothing you desire can compare with her.

     16 Long life is in her right hand; in her left hand are riches and honor.

     17 Her ways are pleasant ways, and all her paths are peace.

Questions
     1. Sooo, you say wisdom is more precious than silver and gold and then you say that in her hand are riches. That just makes no sense, does it?

     2. If God/the Lord is the ultimate in wisdom and the ways of wisdom are peaceful and pleasant, why in the hell isn't God/the Lord more peaceful and pleasant?

9. Proverbs 3:25-26

     25 Have no fear of sudden disaster or of the ruin that overtakes the wicked,

     26 for the Lord will be at your side and will keep your foot from being snared.

Questions
     1. How is it possible for the Lord to be the one to keep your foot from being snared when in a different set of verses it clearly says the Lord commands His angels to do the protecting?

     2. Sooo, who is it who does the protecting? The angels? The Lord? Both?

10. Proverbs 3:33-34

     33 The Lord’s curse is on the house of the wicked, but he blesses the home of the righteous.

     34 He mocks proud mockers but shows favor to the humble and oppressed.

Questions
     1. Does the Lord/God favor the humble and the oppressed because He feeds off of their immense fears?

11. Proverbs 6:16-19

     16 There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him:

     17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood,

     18 a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil,

     19 a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

Questions
     1. Make up your mind, is it six or is it seven?

     2. Doesn't God/the Lord Himself fill at least three of these traits?

     3. Hasn't the Lord/God shed innocent blood time and time again?

   4. Hasn't the Lord/God devised wicked schemes, like when He purposely hardened Pharaoh's heart?

     5. Hasn't the Lord/God stirred up conflict by purposely pointing out differences between His people and others?

12. Proverbs 9:13

     13 Folly is an unruly woman; she is simple and knows nothing. 

Questions
     1. Isn't an unruly woman different from a woman who is simply a simple minded person?

     2. An unruly woman is a woman who knows better. A simple minded woman does NOT know any better. Why in the hell does the Book of Proverbs consistently try to make these two into the same goddamn thing?

13. Proverbs 10:3

     3 The Lord does not let the righteous go hungry, but he thwarts the craving of the wicked.

Questions
     1. Sooo, if we go according to this verse all of those who starved during the Holocaust were unrighteous? There were loads of people who went hungry then, right? Weren't many of those people the LORD'S people?

     2. The Nazis were ravenous wolves if there ever were any, and those mother fuckers got a huge chunk of what they wanted for quite a while. In fact, the little bastards are still hanging around, aren't they? Sooo, when will the cravings of the wicked, such as the Nazis, going to be thwarted PERMANENTLY?

     3. Does the Lord only temporarily thwart the cravings of the wicked? Why?

     4. Is the Lord/God only referring to the afterlife and NOT how things go here in the real world? Does the Lord mean that in the afterlife the righteous will not go hungry, but here in the real world many righteous will suffer and starve while the wicked will reap the riches of the earth?

14. Proverbs 10:12

     12 Hatred stirs up conflict, but love covers over all wrongs.

Questions
     1. If love conquers all wrongs then WHY doesn't God/the Lord use love to conquer all instead of bloody wars?

15. Proverbs 13:11

     11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.

Questions
     1. Do you think that Bernie Madhoff knew this?

     2. Do you think that the filthy rich televangelists know these verses?

16. Proverbs 13:24

     24 Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.

Questions
     1. Does hitting children really teach them anything other than it is okay to hit other people?

     2. Why are children so badly treated in the Bible? Remember when Abraham came that close to sacrificing his son at the request of God? How about the Son of God being sacrificed?

17. Proverbs 13:25

     25 The righteous eat to their hearts’ content, but the stomach of the wicked goes hungry.

Questions
     1. Does this verse mean in the afterlife and not in real life?

     2. How many wicked folk in the present times go to sleep with their bellies full?

     3. Sooo, are the hungry homeless of the earth all unrighteous?

18. Proverbs 14:4-5

     4 Where there are no oxen, the manger is empty, but from the strength of an ox come abundant harvests.

     5 An honest witness does not deceive, but a false witness pours out lies.

Questions
     1. Are these verses really examples of the wisdom of Solomon? Where there are no oxen the manger is empty? No shit, Sherlock.

     2. An honest witness does not deceive? Really? Isn't that like saying a glass with water in it is not empty? Seriously.

19. Proverbs 15:3

     3 The eyes of the Lord are everywhere, keeping watch on the wicked and the good.

Questions
     1. Well, since God/the Lord IS supposed to be Omni-Present I suppose it could be said that His eyes are everywhere. BUT, is that what this verse means?

     2. Does this verse mean that the Lord has eyes everywhere because he has his little angel slaves slinking around keeping tabs on everybody?

20. Proverbs 16:4

     4 The Lord works out everything to its proper end— even the wicked for a day of disaster.

Questions
     1. Isn't this one of the oft favored verses of Christians when they cannot explain something? Don't worry, the Lord/God has it all worked out in the end, right?

21. Proverbs 17:28

     28 Even fools are thought wise if they keep silent, and discerning if they hold their tongues.

Questions
     1. This is not fucking wisdom. Just because a fool is thought to be wise and discerning because he has kept his trap shut does not make him wise or discerning, right? Even a sleeping dog left to continue sleeping is STILL a sleeping dog and nothing else, correct?

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Job Part IV: Just a Few Questions

This is the second to last posting for the questions for the Book of Job in the Holy Bible. I hope you have been considering the answers to the questions as you have been reading them. I also hope that you will take the time to type in some of your answers in the comments section at the end of each posting.

1. Job 9:17

17 For he breaks me with a storm, and multiplies my wounds without cause.

Questions

1. Shouldn't this verse tell you there is something very wrong with this God?

2. Job 10:8

8 "'Your hands have framed me and fashioned me altogether, yet you destroy me.

Questions

1. This says a lot about God, doesn't it? A God Who creates with the specific intent to destroy? Now...why would an all-powerful being do that? To play games with the helpless? To bring Himself glory through the forced worship of those He creates? For WHAT?

3. Job 11:6-8

6 that he would show you the secrets of wisdom! For true wisdom has two sides. Know therefore that God exacts of you less than your iniquity deserves.

7 "Can you fathom the mystery of God? Or can you probe the limits of the Almighty?

8 They are high as heaven. What can you do? They are deeper than Sheol. What can you know?

Questions

1. Isn't that just like religion to imply that there really isn't anything man can really know, seek, or do?

4. Job 11:11

11 For he knows false men. He sees iniquity also, even though he doesn't consider it.

Questions

1. If God does indeed know falsehood and see iniquity without considering it then the first and last thing He must see in regard to such IS Himself, right?

5. Job 11:13

13 "If you set your heart aright, stretch out your hands toward him.

Questions

1. How can you set your heart right when God has taken it from your chest? How can you stretch out your hands when God has cut off your arms?

6. Job 12:23-25

23 He increases the nations, and he destroys them. He enlarges the nations, and he leads them captive.

24 He takes away understanding from the chiefs of the people of the earth, and causes them to wander in a wilderness where there is no way.

25 They grope in the dark without light. He makes them stagger like a drunken man.

Questions

1. Aren't these verses the bitter truth about this God of the Bible? Why is this God of Love concerned with destroying, leading astray, and causing to become lost without hope and help?

7. Job 14:1

1 "Man, who is born of a woman, is of few days, and full of trouble.

Questions

1. Is this also a clue as to why God never speaks of His mother, why He harbors such great disdain for women?

8. Job 15:12

12 Why does your heart carry you away? Why do your eyes flash,

Questions

1. Could it be because God is a diabolical bastard Who apparently lives to feed off the fear emitted by man?

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I Kings Part V: Just a Few Questions

Why not be the King? It can be far worse to be a prophet!

Oh yeah...you thought some of the kings of the people of Israel had it bad? Look at what some of the prophets had to go through. If you read this story and did not know it was from the Bible you would think you were reading a terrible story that involved a quite powerful person who used, abused, and threw people away whenever he was done using them for whatever dastardly thing he had planned. So SO terrible it really makes me sick.

1. I Kings 13:11-18
11 Now an old prophet lived in Bethel. And his sons came and told him all that the man of God had done that day in Bethel. They also told to their father the words that he had spoken to the king.

12 And their father said to them, “Which way did he go?” And his sons showed him the way that the man of God who came from Judah had gone.

13 Then he said to his sons, "Saddle the donkey for me." So they saddled the donkey for him and he rode away on it.

14 And he went after the man of God and found him sitting under an oak. And he said to him, “Are you the man of God who came from Judah?” And he said, “I am.”

15 Then he said to him, “Come home with me and eat bread.”

16 And he said, “I may not return with you, or go in with you, neither will I eat bread nor drink water with you in this place,

17 for it was said to me by the word of the LORD, ‘You shall neither eat bread nor drink water there, nor return by the way that you came.’”

18 And he said to him, “I also am a prophet as you are, and an angel spoke to me by the word of the LORD, saying, ‘Bring him back with you into your house that he may eat bread and drink water.’” But he lied to him.

Questions

     1) This is an interesting gaggle of verses, right? Sooo...the sons go and tell their old man prophet father that another prophet is in town? And then in quick response the old man prophet father jumps up and says to go and saddle...the donkey?

     2) Sooo...was this old man prophet who shot off across the plains on a donkey also a prophet of God? If not, just who was he a prophet for? If he was a prophet of God what the hell happened? Did God need to turn him rogue in order to make things happen the way that He needed them to happen?

     3) Sooo...if the old man prophet who shot off across the plains on a friggin donkey was directed or allowed by God to purposely lie to another prophet about being a person who received a message from God/the LORD and this is actually a lie in the specifics of the message (since there was really no such message received) and not in the act of being a person who speaks for God (because the lying prophet IS a prophet of God)...WHEW!!! Who writes this crap?

   4) Okay, here is yet another question that bothers me about this story, right? Sooo...uhmmm, God IS supposed to be all-powerful, correct? God is also supposed to be all-good and all-loving, right? If God really is these things, all-powerful, all-loving, all-good, yada-yada, plucka-plucka, then wouldn't it stand at the very LEAST by biblical reasoning that God ALWAYS WINS? If God always wins then why did He manipulate people into doing things that are the antithesis of God's very own nature? Why did God make the donkey dude prophet lie to the first prophet?

     5) Does is make any sense whatsoever that God had to LIE in order to get what He wanted done/to fulfill prophecy/to make His words stand?

   6) Can an intelligent, ultimately controlling and reasoning Being that is supposed to encompass everything that is truth, is this Being capable of lying? Yes or No...can this Being LIE and if so how does this affect His perceived natural state of perfection?

    7) Sooo...man was made in the image of God, was he? If man was created with free will does that mean that God also has free will? If God is the ultimate in free will then there is no one anywhere that can make Him do anything AND with this ultimate free will God will logically possess every possible choice (both good and bad) to every situation, right? 

    8) If the above IS the case, wouldn't it follow out of necessity of His very attributes of all that He is and all that He consists of, that God used HIS  ultimate free will to make the choice to lie, to trick, to mislead, to knowingly and intentionally place someone in danger for the purpose of murdering them...and all of THAT for the so-called fulfillment of His 'plan' for mankind?

    9) What is it exactly about the foregoing that makes you want to worship, love, adore, pay homage to, pray to, or even give any attention whatsoever to the seriously screwy God of the Bible?

2. I Kings 13:20

20 And as they sat at the table, the word of the LORD came to the prophet who had brought him back.

21 And he cried to the man of God who came from Judah, “Thus says the LORD, ‘Because you have disobeyed the word of the LORD and have not kept the command that the LORD your God commanded you,

22 but have come back and have eaten bread and drunk water in the place of which he said to you, “Eat no bread and drink no water,” your body shall not come to the tomb of your fathers.’”

23 And after he had eaten bread and drunk, he saddled the donkey for the prophet whom he had brought back.

24 And as he went away a lion met him on the road and killed him. And his body was thrown in the road, and the donkey stood beside it; the lion also stood beside the body.

Questions

     1) Oooooohhhh!!! I see! It was ALL a trick of the LORD/God...right from the very beginning, right?

   2) Sooo...let me make sure I've got this right here, uhmmm...the story here is that the LORD/God told the original prophet that he was not to go back and eat or drink and all that mumbo jumbo, BUT then the LORD/God tells this other prophet old guy to get on a donkey, go out to the original prophet, invite him to lunch BY TELLING HIM THAT GOD SAID TO GO BACK WITH THE PROPHET RIDING THE DONKEY TO HAVE LUNCH. SO then the original prophet goes back because he believes the prophet dude on the donkey...THEN when the original prophet is eating lunch with the prophet dude on the donkey the LORD/God basically channels a message through the donkey dude prophet and says, "TRICK!!! I gotcha, bee-OTCH! Now you are gonna die!" I have got that much right, THAT is the story here, correct?

     3) THEN...after God/the LORD is finished tricking this prophet guy (the one who made the prediction about the splitting altar and the falling ashes) by getting another prophet (the older prophet dude on the donkey) to lie to him, the LORD/God then decides to off this faithful servant (the altar prophet guy) by having a LION meet him on the road and kill him? What the fuck?!

     4) Oh, and the donkey IS safe, correct? I mean, the Bible does say the donkey stood beside the body of the prophet bamboozled by the LORD/God, right?

     5) I am really curious about the idea of a lion meeting the individual he is to kill, aren't you? What kind of message did this lion receive from God? I mean, how does this play out? Is it something like...Once upon a time, a young lion living in the land of the people of Israel was instructed by God, Who said, "Lion, goeth thee thou out to yonder road and waiteth thee for a prophet with whom I am very angry. Thoust shalleth maul-eth the man who once spoke for God, but when the man has expired thou shouldst not eateth of his body, neither harm his donkey, but sitteth there for shits and giggles just to see how many people passeth the carcass of this former man of God before someone haveth compassion, decency and courage to bury and mourn for him." Do you think it would have been something like that?

3. I Kings 13:25

25 People who passed by saw the body lying in the road and the lion standing beside it, and they went and reported it in Bethel, where the old prophet lived.

Questions

     1) Really? Sooo...this lion is standing by the body of a person it has killed, and we are supposed to believe that people are 'passing by' and taking all this in like a midday matinee, then reporting it to the townspeople? Somebody was into the ganja when they wrote this story, weren't they?

4. I Kings 13:26

26 And when the prophet who had brought him back from the way heard of it, he said, “It is the man of God who disobeyed the word of the LORD; therefore the LORD has given him to the lion, which has torn him and killed him, according to the word that the LORD spoke to him.”

Questions

    1) Does this donkey dude prophet remember anything he said or did to the other prophet?

   2) Doesn't he recall telling the other prophet the lie that God said to go back with him and have lunch?

   3) Do any of the people suspect this donkey dude prophet had something to do with it since he apparently knows all of the information as to what happened to this guy while everyone else does not?

    4) This man of God who was killed disobeyed God? Wasn't he TRICKED by God? If he was tricked by God he sure as shit did not disobey God, did he?

    5) The LORD/God set this poor man up for failure, didn't He? How does this LORD/God then deserve anything BUT disdain?

5. I Kings 13:27

27 Then he spoke to his sons, saying, "Saddle the donkey for me." And they saddled it.

28 And he went and found his body thrown in the road, and the donkey and the lion standing beside the body. The lion had not eaten the body or torn the donkey.

29 And the prophet took up the body of the man of God and laid it on the donkey and brought it back to the city to mourn and to bury him.

30 And he laid the body in his own grave. And they mourned over him, saying, “Alas, my brother!”

31 And after he had buried him, he said to his sons, “When I die, bury me in the grave in which the man of God is buried; lay my bones beside his bones.

Questions

     1) Sooo...up to this point no one has gone to get the body of the dead prophet, which by the way the lion and donkey are still standing by? You have a dead body and a lion and a donkey and the lion isn't touching the body or the donkey and people don't stop to think that God/the LORD definitely had something to do with this?

     2) Sooo...the prophet who had his mind hijacked by the LORD in order to tell the other prophet a lie so that God/the LORD could kill him, goes out and takes the body of the dead prophet, buries him and mourns for him...because apparently no one else was going to do so? What the fuck is wrong with people? What the fuck is wrong with the LORD/God?

     3) There is something about verse 31 that just seems so very lonely and so very hurtful and so very dejected, isn't there? God/the LORD would have left the body of the tricked prophet that He murdered just laying there on the road, wouldn't He have? Was it not enough for God that the man was dead that He had to make the effort to try to leave him alone in death as well, his body cast aside like trash? Is THIS the God/LORD you worship?

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