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Thursday, May 1, 2014

Psalms Part IV

     Psalms Part IV

Here we are with Part IV of questions for the Book of Psalms in the Bible. Again, if you have answers please post them in the comments section. If you decide to use Bible verses in your answer please be sure to include the passage location.

1. Psalm 19:7
     7 The law of the Lord is perfect, refreshing the soul. The statutes of the Lord are trustworthy, making wise the simple.

Questions
     1. Sooo...the laws of the Lord are perfect? Does this mean that stoning the man who works on the Sabbath is a perfect law? How about the law that says that when a man rapes a woman she has to become his wife? How about the shedding of blood to atone for sins? WHERE is the perfection in these laws?


2. Psalm 19:9
     9 The fear of the Lord is pure, enduring forever. The decrees of the Lord are firm, and all of them are righteous.

Questions
     1. Pure fear? Pure fear that lasts forever? That sounds like something from one of those Freddy Kruger flicks, doesn't it? If God/the Lord is so great why does He need any kind of fear at all? Wouldn't His greatness, limitless greatness at that, eliminate the need for fear?


3. Psalm 23:1
     1 The Lord is my shepherd, I lack nothing.

Questions
     1. You lack nothing? What you really mean is you lack nothing in the afterlife, right? Are there not plenty of sheep of the Shepherd's flock that suffer for want of just about everything, to include food, water, shelter, and basic safety?

     2. Are not children in particular supposed to be very special to this Shepherd? Sooo, are the children languishing in the cancer wards of the hospitals for children lacking nothing?


4. Psalm 23:3
     3 he refreshes my soul. He guides me along the right paths for his name’s sake.

Questions
     1. Sooo, he guides you along the right paths for HIS sake and not YOUR sake, right? It is for HIS sake. Now why would it be worded like that?


5. Psalm 27:6
     6 Then my head will be exalted above the enemies who surround me; at his sacred tent I will sacrifice with shouts of joy; I will sing and make music to the Lord.

Questions
     1. Sooo, basically you will do ANYTHING to be with your Lord...even kill and spill innocent blood in His presence? You will kill and shout with joy while doing it just so you can be with this Lord?


6. Psalm 27:13
     13 I remain confident of this: I will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living.

Questions
     1. You will see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living? Do you mean that as opposed to seeking the goodness of the Lord in the land of the dead? Wouldn't the goodness of the Lord be everywhere at all times? If the goodness of the Lord is everywhere at all times why would anyone have to seek it since it would be by nature APPARENT?


7. Psalm 29:11
     11 The Lord gives strength to his people; the Lord blesses his people with peace.

Questions
     1. If the Lord gives strength to His people and brings them peace...what the freak happened to all of that happiness during World War II when the Jews were slaughtered, hummm?


8. Psalm 31:5
     5 Into your hands I commit my spirit; deliver me, Lord, my faithful God.

Questions
     1. Sooo, first the spirit is committed into the hands of the Lord and THEN the request is made to be delivered by the Lord? This sounds suspiciously like selling your soul to the devil, except here you are selling your soul to the Lord under threat of destruction, right? Isn't this totally creepy?


9. Psalm 31:15
     15 My times are in your hands; deliver me from the hands of my enemies, from those who pursue me.

Questions
     1. Okay, so, if the Lord is so ever-loving great and powerful and if everyone knows this then why would the enemies pursue someone who they knew was defended by such a great being that never fails and is the ultimate in power, hummm? Wouldn't that be the ultimate in stupidity?


10. Psalm 32:7
     7 You are my hiding place; you will protect me from trouble and surround me with songs of deliverance.

Questions
     1. If the Lord is so great and someone believes in Him, why in the hell would they have to hide from anyone or anything? If you believe in the Ultimate Being who is supposed to be the greatest ever and of all time WHY would there be the need for the deliverance of anything? If you are truly protected by the greatest and most powerful being ever you would not need any kind of deliverance, song or otherwise, would you?


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Tuesday, October 15, 2013

Judges Part III: Just a Few Questions

Why is this so important?

Why is it so important to question what you believe? What is the benefit to you in forcing yourself to look at your belief system, to reassess time and again the things you clutch tightly and hold dear to your heart or your mind or your soul or your spirit? Is it true that all paths lead to God? Who is God? What is God? Why is God? Does man truly exist because of God or is it really the other way around?

It is okay, I think, to ask yourself these questions consistently and not reach an answer. At least you are asking yourself, putting yourself to task and pressing for an answer and for greater understanding. I do not think it is okay to not ask yourself these questions or to only ask yourself once and then let it be. No. You must seek so that you may find. Do not be satiated with easy fix answers of God or Jesus will make everything all better. In the end analysis it really is all up to you to change yourself for the better and contribute something to the whole. This starts with your belief system in what you believe about yourself, about others, about the world and universe around you, about all things divine or supernatural.

Your belief system is of great importance. Take great care of it. Respect it. Cherish it. Make it something good. Make it something full of appreciation, full of compassion, full of grace (and, no, I do not mean the religious version of grace), full of hope, full of selflessness, full of knowledge, full of joy and full of love...

...because without these precious things essential to living a full life what have you got?

We now continue with Part III of the book of Judges in the Old Testament.

1. Judges 12:1
The men of Ephraim were called to arms, and they crossed to Zaphon and said to Jephthah, “Why did you cross over to fight against the Ammonites and did not call us to go with you? We will burn your house over you with fire.”

Questions

     1) What exactly is the problem with God's chosen people? Are they so jealous over who gets to fight whom that they will go so far as to fight each other?

     2) You didn't call me to go and fight with you so now I am going to burn your house down?


2. Judges 12:4-6
Then Jephthah gathered all the men of Gilead and fought with Ephraim. And the men of Gilead struck Ephraim, because they said, “You are fugitives of Ephraim, you Gileadites, in the midst of Ephraim and Manasseh.

And the Gileadites captured the fords of the Jordan against the Ephraimites. And when any of the fugitives of Ephraim said, “Let me go over,” the men of Gilead said to him, “Are you an Ephraimite?” When he said, “No,”


they said to him, “Then say Shibboleth,” and he said, “Sibboleth,” for he could not pronounce it right. Then they seized him and slaughtered him at the fords of the Jordan. At that time 42,000 of the Ephraimites fell.



Questions
     1) Sooo...if the guy before you cannot pronounce the word properly he is thus an infidel and should be done away with immediately?

     2) God is allowing His own chosen people to fight and kill each other? What is wrong with this picture? What is God thinking? If God is allowing His people to kill each other what is God seeking to accomplish by allowing such?


3. Judges 13:1
And the people of Israel again did what was evil in the sight of the LORD, so the LORD gave them into the hand of the Philistines for forty years.

Questions

     1) WHAT exactly was it that the people of Israel did that was so very evil? Surely there are variations on what is evil, so why aren't these supposed evil deeds clarified? I want to know exactly what it was they did, don't you? I do not want to guess what they did since that will only leave me open to mistake, right?


4. Judges 13:2-3
There was a certain man of Zorah, of the tribe of the Danites, whose name was Manoah. And his wife was barren and had no children.

And the angel of the LORD appeared to the woman and said to her, “Behold, you are barren and have not borne children, but you shall conceive and bear a son.


Questions

     1) What is it with the angel of the LORD appearing to women throughout the Bible to tell them that they will have children when the women are up to that point barren?

     2) Why is it always barren women?

     3) Is there something special about barren women that God is not telling us?

     4) Are the barren women more prone to do everything that God wants since they want children so badly?


5. Judges 13:16
16 And the angel of the LORD said to Manoah, “If you detain me, I will not eat of your food. But if you prepare a burnt offering, then offer it to the LORD.” (For Manoah did not know that he was the angel of the LORD.)

Questions

     1) Why doesn't this angel want to eat the food the people are offering to him?

     2) Does the LORD not allow the angel to take the meal since that would be the people showing the angel attention and affection and the LORD wants all of that for Himself?

     3) Is the ravenous need for attention the reason why the LORD has the angel tell the people to offer the LORD a burnt offering?


6. Judges 13:17-18
17 And Manoah said to the angel of the LORD, “What is your name, so that, when your words come true, we may honor you?”

18 And the angel of the LORD said to him, “Why do you ask my name, seeing it is wonderful?”


Questions

     1) This is not a very nice thing for the angel of the LORD to say, is it? It means that the angel of the LORD is basically saying the people are too goddamn stupid to understand the angel's name, doesn't it?

     2) Is there any reason why the angel or the LORD would NOT want the people to know the angel's name and so simply made some horseshit up about the people not being able to understand the name?


7. Judges 13:20-22
20 And when the flame went up toward heaven from the altar, the angel of the LORD went up in the flame of the altar. Now Manoah and his wife were watching, and they fell on their faces to the ground.

21 The angel of the LORD appeared no more to Manoah and to his wife. Then Manoah knew that he was the angel of the LORD.


22 And Manoah said to his wife, “We shall surely die, for we have seen God.”



Questions
     1) If God is everywhere and so apparent then why didn't these people know right away who the angle of the LORD was? Why does it seem like the Bible makes these people appear to be so stupid? Is it because they want people to see how very much these stupid people needed this amazingly wonderful God? Isn't that wrong?


8. Judges 14:1-3
Samson went down to Timnah, and at Timnah he saw one of the daughters of the Philistines.

Then he came up and told his father and mother, “I saw one of the daughters of the Philistines at Timnah. Now get her for me as my wife.”


But his father and mother said to him, “Is there not a woman among the daughters of your relatives, or among all our people, that you must go to take a wife from the uncircumcised Philistines?” But Samson said to his father, “Get her for me, for she is right in my eyes.”


Questions

     1) Oh how nice. A guy sees a woman and says, "I want her," and then tells people to go and get her for him. Doesn't that sound like a nice healthy respect for women and the right of a woman to make her own choices?


9. Judges 14:4
His father and mother did not know that it was from the LORD, for he was seeking an opportunity against the Philistines. At that time the Philistines ruled over Israel.

Questions

     1) Isn't this the same thing as saying that the LORD was purposely stirring the pot so He could get people fighting?

     2) Isn't this also the same thing as saying the LORD was USING the people, HIS people as a means to an end?

     3) The people of Israel are the pawns in God's/the LORD's sick-o chess game, aren't they?


10. Judges 14:5-6
Then Samson went down with his father and mother to Timnah, and they came to the vineyards of Timnah. And behold, a young lion came toward him roaring.

Then the Spirit of the LORD rushed upon him, and although he had nothing in his hand, he tore the lion in pieces as one tears a young goat. But he did not tell his father or his mother what he had done.


Questions

     1) Sooo...it says Sampson goes down WITH his father and mother but he does not tell them what he did to the young lion? How does that work? Was he or was he NOT with his parents? 

     2) If Sampson and his parents were together as it certainly sounds like in verse 5, how did his parents not see what Sampson had done to the young lion?

     3) What is meant by 'young lion' when considering this set of verses? Do they mean young lion like an adolescent male lion that is in the process of coming into his own strength and power? Do they mean quite literally a young lion, like a cub? If it is a lion CUB would it really take that much for a very strong man to tear him to pieces? I mean, remember what Michael Vick did to those dogs? You get a strong enough person and they can really tear into something, right?


11. Judges 14:15
15 On the fourth day they said to Samson’s wife, “Entice your husband to tell us what the riddle is, lest we burn you and your father’s house with fire. Have you invited us here to impoverish us?”

Questions

     1) The Bible is so stuffed with this type of "Tell me what I want to know or I will tear you to shreds and burn your house down" garbage that you seriously need to ponder what the fuck is wrong with God, right? Why does He allow this bullshit time and again? To get what HE wants? Doesn't that then make Him just as guilty as the douchebag threatening death if the information is not given?


12. Judges 14:20
20 And Samson’s wife was given to his companion, who had been his best man.

Questions

     1) You know what? The treatment of women in the Bible is so base and so vile you have to ask what the heck part of God is holy and compassionate and loving, right?

     2) These people swap women around as though they were trading poker chips...and GOD allows this? Oh wait...it must be that version of free will in the Bible that so many just love to quote as the culprit, correct?


13. Judges 15:1-2
After some days, at the time of wheat harvest, Samson went to visit his wife with a young goat. And he said, “I will go in to my wife in the chamber.” But her father would not allow him to go in.

And her father said, “I really thought that you utterly hated her, so I gave her to your companion. Is not her younger sister more beautiful than she? Please take her instead.”


Questions

     1) The woman's father gave her away to another man? Did she have any choice in this? Did the father at any time think about sending Sampson some kind of freaking notification of what was being done?

     2) The father then requests that Sampson take the younger sister of the woman? Did SHE have a choice in the matter? By what truth and real right does a person hand over the life and body of another person? What evil is this that the LORD allows without so much as a shrug?


14. Judges 15:3-5
And Samson said to them, “This time I shall be innocent in regard to the Philistines, when I do them harm.”

So Samson went and caught 300 foxes and took torches. And he turned them tail to tail and put a torch between each pair of tails.


And when he had set fire to the torches, he let the foxes go into the standing grain of the Philistines and set fire to the stacked grain and the standing grain, as well as the olive orchards.


Questions

     1) Sooo...was Sampson previously NOT innocent in regards to what he did to the Philistines? 

     2) If Sampson was unfair and unrighteous with how he treated the Philistines then why in the fuckey-doo would the LORD allow such a person to lead His people?

     3) Does the LORD not care about how unfair Sampson is with the Philistines since they are considered to be the enemy?

     4) Why do the people of the LORD have so very many enemies?


15. Judges 15:14-15
14 When he came to Lehi, the Philistines came shouting to meet him. Then the Spirit of the LORD rushed upon him, and the ropes that were on his arms became as flax that has caught fire, and his bonds melted off his hands.

15 And he found a fresh jawbone of a donkey, and put out his hand and took it, and with it he struck 1,000 men.


Questions

     1) Do you notice that here it says that the Spirit of the LORD rushed upon him? Why does it say rushed when in other places in the Bible is clearly says that the Spirit of the LORD came upon him when referring to a person being inundated with the Spirit of the LORD?

     2) Does the use of the word rushed imply that the Spirit of the LORD is angry?


16. Judges 16:1
Samson went to Gaza, and there he saw a prostitute, and he went in to her.

Questions

     1) Sooo...in addition to Sampson not playing fair with the enemies of Israel he also has a thing for prostitutes? Does the LORD not care about the character of the man who leads His people?

     2) Considering the apparent lack of concern shown by the LORD in regards to Sampson's catting around with prostitutes, do you think people should have been so hard on Jimmy Swaggart?


17. Judges 16:15-17
15 And she said to him, “How can you say, ‘I love you,’ when your heart is not with me? You have mocked me these three times, and you have not told me where your great strength lies.”

16 And when she pressed him hard with her words day after day, and urged him, his soul was vexed to death.


17 And he told her all his heart, and said to her, “A razor has never come upon my head, for I have been a Nazirite to God from my mother’s womb. If my head is shaved, then my strength will leave me, and I shall become weak and be like any other man.”


Questions

     1) You would think that Sampson would have realized that this woman was doing her best to find out his weakness or the source of his strength and NOT tell her the real reasons, right?

     2) Why was Sampson so stupid in telling her the source of his strength, especially when several times she even had men there waiting to attack him?


18. Judges 16:27
27 Now the house was full of men and women. All the lords of the Philistines were there, and on the roof there were about 3,000 men and women, who looked on while Samson entertained.

Questions

     1) Is this why the LORD allowed Sampson to be so goddamn stupid in telling the source of his strength, so that later on down the line Sampson could be put in a position to topple the pillars in the temple and kill three thousand Philistines?

     2) If the question above is true...well, wouldn't this be just another example of God/the LORD using and abusing someone WITHOUT THEM REALIZING IT so that God/the LORD could get whatever it is that He wants (which usually includes a good number of people dying horribly)?



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Monday, September 30, 2013

Leviticus: Just a Few Questions

Rules, Rules and More Rules

For the book of Leviticus there will only be one posting of questions. I really don't have that much for this book in the way of questions, but I will do my best to present the few questions I do have in the most interesting manner possible.

As with all of the other postings of book by book Bible questions, please feel free to leave a comment, an answer, whatever you like. The questions are all part of why I do not believe in the supposed truth of the Bible or that God even exists. I want to know why you believe (IF you are a believer). If you do use a Bible verse as a reference please remember to note the passage location so that I may look it up.

1. Leviticus 1:11, 13
11 Slaughter the animal on the north side of the altar in the LORD's presence, and Aaron's sons, the priests, will splatter its blood against all sides of the altar.

13 But the internal organs and the legs must first be washed with water. Then the priest will burn the entire sacrifice on the altar as a burnt offering. It is a special gift, a pleasing aroma to the LORD.

Questions
     1) Here we go again with the obvious questions, right? If God is everywhere, all the time then you don't have to worry about being in the Lord's presence since the Lord is supposed to be everywhere, correct? 

     2) So the Lord wants the animal killed in His presence? Why? Is He just a sicko who likes to watch death?

     3) What in the world made God come up with the ludicrous idea that killing something that has nothing to do with sin, much less something that does not even possess the powers of reason with which to sin, somehow compensates for the accumulated sin?

2. Leviticus 2:9, 13
And the priest shall take from the grain offering its memorial portion and burn this on the altar, a food offering with a pleasing aroma to the LORD.

13 You shall season all your grain offerings with salt. You shall not let the salt of the covenant with your God be missing from your grain offering; with all your offerings you shall offer salt.

Questions
     1) What part of this smells good to God? Here these people are cutting and killing and offering up these animal sacrifices every goddamn day, sprinkling blood here and there, taking out entrails...and the Bible says there was a pleasing aroma to the Lord? And don't forget they are in the desert, so can you imagine the horrid smell during the heat riddled days of the year?

     2) Why do the offerings have to have salt on them? Does the Lord God eat the items the people of Israel are sacrificing? If so, how freaking much does this God eat considering the number of animals being sacrificed daily?

     3) Is the usage of salt intended to ward off bad spirits/demons/devils or the like?

3. Leviticus 3:16
16 And the priest shall burn them on the altar as a food offering with a pleasing aroma. All fat is the LORD’s.

Questions
     1) Why is all the fat the Lord's? Is it because the fat is tasty and the Lord only wants it for Himself?

     2) Please, please, please explain this 'pleasing aroma' line that keeps popping up. What does it mean? Is it the smell of death that is pleasing? Is it the smell of the fear that the animals experience as they are being killed? Is it the smell of the power and control over another living being's life that is experienced by the priests doing the actual sacrifice?

4. Leviticus 4:10, 14
10 just as the fat is removed from the ox sacrificed as a fellowship offering. Then the priest shall burn them on the altar of burnt offering.

14 when the sin which they have committed becomes known, the assembly shall offer a bull from the herd for a sin offering and bring it in front of the tent of meeting.

Questions
     1) You know what? On its own the book of Leviticus SHOULD be a good enough warning for people to NOT believe the terrible things in the Bible, right? Why don't the prophets and seers and leaders of the Bible times and of the people of Israel ever give a true, definitive answer as to WHY and HOW killing something innocent and blameless and lacking in the ability to reason absolves any amount of sin?

     2) Where is the logic and where is the validation that clearly conveys that taking life somehow removes sin and guilt and consequence?


5. Leviticus 4:17-18
17 and the priest shall dip his finger in the blood and sprinkle it seven times before the LORD in front of the veil.

18 He will then put some of the blood on the horns of the altar for fragrant incense that stands in the LORD's presence inside the Tabernacle. He will pour out the rest of the blood at the base of the altar for burnt offerings at the entrance of the Tabernacle.

Questions
     1) Sprinkle the blood seven times? Is that symbolic for the six days of creation and then the seventh day of rest? Is it symbolic of the seven churches and the lampstand? 

     2) So, if all of this ritual animal sacrifice is taking place in the tabernacle and there are veils and various other things all about, what exactly was the condition of this area where all of this stuff is being done? Did they wash it daily, because if they did not wouldn't it get rather rancid and even harbor disease?


6. Leviticus 5:9
and he shall sprinkle some of the blood of the sin offering on the side of the altar, while the rest of the blood shall be drained out at the base of the altar; it is a sin offering.

Questions
     1) Where is the righteousness in taking the life blood of a living creature, draining this creature of its blood, collecting this blood, and then carrying out a ritual with the blood? 

     2) How in the world can the people of Israel in the Bible do these terrible things to animals, non-reasoning living creatures that know dick about sin, but then point to other cultures and peoples and say that the rituals and practices of others are so wrong or unacceptable?

     3) How in the world do people think this God of the Bible is so great and so powerful if He needs sacrifice, blood sacrifice?


7. Leviticus 7:37
37 This is the law of the burnt offering, of the grain offering, of the sin offering, of the guilt offering, of the ordination offering, and of the peace offering,

Questions
     1) Where is the 'offering' part of any of these things? There is nothing offered. And why is nothing offered? Well, how can anything be offered when from the very beginning of the ritual life is taken?

     2) Which part of the offering compensates for the purposeful taking of life from a living being for purposes other than a MUST for food? Why in the world would the people of this mighty God want to do such terrible things? Does God want the people to remember what He can do to them if they piss Him off enough, and so He has them sacrifice to Him every day?


8. Leviticus 11:42-43
42 Whatever goes on its belly, and whatever goes on all fours, or whatever has many feet, any swarming thing that swarms on the ground, you shall not eat, for they are detestable.

43 You shall not make yourselves detestable with any swarming thing that swarms, and you shall not defile yourselves with them, and become unclean through them.

Questions
     1) This is sheer stupidity, isn't it? So, there are all of these different animals that are considered unclean? 

     2) Doesn't Genesis 9:3 say that, "Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything"? 

     3) Sooo...what changed between Genesis 9 and Leviticus 11 to make many of the animals God created unsuitable for consumption?


9. Leviticus 14:34, 50-52
34 “When you come into the land of Canaan, which I give you for a possession, and I put a case of leprous disease in a house in the land of your possession,

50 and shall kill one of the birds in an earthenware vessel over fresh water

51 and shall take the cedar wood and the hyssop and the scarlet yarn, along with the live bird, and dip them in the blood of the bird that was killed and in the fresh water and sprinkle the house seven times.

52 Thus he shall cleanse the house with the blood of the bird and with the fresh water and with the live bird and with the cedar wood and hyssop and scarlet yarn.

Questions
     1) This is a freaking ritual spell, straight up. How can so many Christians quite happily tout that magic and spells and incantations are evil, as are rituals and symbolic celebrations of natural power and energy when they have the same in their own practices? Are they not considered evil since it is the people of Israel doing it?


10. Leviticus 18:22, 29
22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

29 For everyone who does any of these abominations, the persons who do them shall be cut off from among their people.

Questions
     1) Why don't more pastors and preachers make it clear that the term abomination referred to something that was contrary to custom and not something that was slated for hell? Why does it seem like some preachers and representatives of Christianity would rather people think the wrong thing, that abomination means that something is worthy of hell?


11. Leviticus 20:12
12 If a man lies with his daughter-in-law, both of them shall surely be put to death; they have committed perversion; their blood is upon them.

Questions
     1) Right. Sooo...God says not a goddamn thing about Lot impregnating BOTH of his daughters, not a damn thing about who the hell Cain married and had children with if everyone came from Adam and Eve, not a damn thing about Abram marrying his freaking half-sister...BUT when it comes to this God suddenly gets a bee in His bonnet? Never mind all of the incest that took place between people who were related after God booted Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden, and even when Noah and his family left the ark. Forget all of that, right?


12. Leviticus 20:13
13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

Questions
     1) Do people really and truly think that saying that someone's blood is upon that same someone for something wrong that they did, do people who say such things really think they are absolved of any wrong-doing when they kill the people who supposedly did the wrong?

     2) Isn't this the same damn thing as saying it is their own fault that they were killed for being gay?


13. Leviticus 24:21
21 Whoever kills an animal shall make it good, and whoever kills a person shall be put to death.

Questions
     1) Make the killed animal good? I would assume this means some kind of compensation and not good in the sense of beef ribs with sides of cornbread and mashed potatoes?

     2) So the part about killing a person who has killed another person does not apply in war, correct? How does it apply to people who have true mental and psychological issues?


14. Leviticus 26:3-4
'If you walk in My statutes and keep My commandments so as to carry them out,

then I will give you your rains in their season, and the land shall yield its increase, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit.

Questions
     1) So basically God is saying that if the people want to eat and drink and raise their families and flocks and all of that happiness that they must obey everything God says...period?

     2) And if the people consistently listen then the LORD will make sure the rain gets to where it needs to get when it is needed, the harvests will be voon-der-bar, and the trees producing fruit will be producing in abundance?